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Mar 14Edited

Thanks for writing this short history.

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If you would suffer to read the following tangent from me, I would be grateful:

Honestly, if you wrote a short book that was a history of the Red Pill movement, I think it'd both do well, and reinvigorate some of the ideas for debate. More importantly, and of my own interest, it would provide some long-standing defense against paid propagandists like Theroux/Wikipedia/etc. If anyone has both the knowledge and credibility to write such a thing, it's you Jack. It doesn't have to be intensely researched or perfect, “good enough” really would be adequate. Maybe just a longer-than-usual article on Substack.

I know I'm just a stranger pitching ideas, please pardon any seeming arrogance. But I only do so because it struck me reading the article, you are one of very few guys who has seen much of it happen from the inside and are intellectually capable of accurately and honestly describing each group's philosophical purpose.

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Either way, great rebuke of Theroux; keenly diagnosed as usual.

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Jack, this is an excellent piece: clear, honest, and grounded in lived experience of the early online men’s movement. You make an important distinction between the original blog-based manosphere (messy but intellectually curious) and the later social-media spectacle built around virality, monetisation, and controversy. Your point about the media’s inability to engage seriously with the underlying issues facing men is particularly sharp. Too often, journalists prefer caricatures to context. The observation that both influencers and documentarians profit from outrage is also a powerful insight. Whether people agree with every conclusion or not, this essay adds the historical perspective and nuance that any serious discussion of masculinity, and the so-called “manosphere”, desperately needs... Thank you.

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